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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://cashmoneylife.com/calculate-estimated-taxes-guide/#comment-34913</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2011 02:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jared, this is a situation I am not familiar with. You probably need clarification from your employer regarding when your offical start date was as an employee because your employer is required to pay unemployment insurance and other taxes for all employees, as well as the employer portion of employment taxes. Then you will need to pay your taxes based on your employment status. I recommend sitting down with your employer to get this situation resolved as quicky as possible (it may also be a good idea to contact an accountant to help you better understand your options). And on your end, it will be a good idea to start saving some money in case you end up with a big tax bill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jared, this is a situation I am not familiar with. You probably need clarification from your employer regarding when your offical start date was as an employee because your employer is required to pay unemployment insurance and other taxes for all employees, as well as the employer portion of employment taxes. Then you will need to pay your taxes based on your employment status. I recommend sitting down with your employer to get this situation resolved as quicky as possible (it may also be a good idea to contact an accountant to help you better understand your options). And on your end, it will be a good idea to start saving some money in case you end up with a big tax bill.</p>
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		<title>By: Jared</title>
		<link>http://cashmoneylife.com/calculate-estimated-taxes-guide/#comment-34892</link>
		<dc:creator>Jared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2011 00:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ryan, 

I started a new job this year.  My boss, who owns the company hadn&#039;t decided whether I would be treated as a contract worker or employee until a few weeks ago.  He decided to treat me as an employee, however, for the first seven months or so no taxes have been taken out of my check nor have I made estimated tax payments.  Will I be penalized for not making estimated payments?  What should I do?  Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan, </p>
<p>I started a new job this year.  My boss, who owns the company hadn&#8217;t decided whether I would be treated as a contract worker or employee until a few weeks ago.  He decided to treat me as an employee, however, for the first seven months or so no taxes have been taken out of my check nor have I made estimated tax payments.  Will I be penalized for not making estimated payments?  What should I do?  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Pat S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 22:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article is helpful, and if Sam hadn&#039;t asked the question above I might have! The best thing in your response- &quot;speaking with a small business adviser or accountant&quot;. The tax code is so complex that trying to do this kind of stuff on your own is only begging for an audit... IMHO</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article is helpful, and if Sam hadn&#8217;t asked the question above I might have! The best thing in your response- &#8220;speaking with a small business adviser or accountant&#8221;. The tax code is so complex that trying to do this kind of stuff on your own is only begging for an audit&#8230; IMHO</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 14:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great questions, Sam, and I&#039;ll answer to the best of my ability (and recommend you verify with a tax pro or otherwise follow up with your own research before acting). 

&lt;strong&gt;Irregular income + day job:&lt;/strong&gt; If your irregular income is a pass through entity (sole proprietor, single person LLC, etc), then it&#039;s essentially one pot of money. If this is the case, all the IRS is concerned with is that you pay enough taxes, and pay them on time. The US tax system is a pay-as-you-go system, which means you owe income tax when the money is earned. The good thing is that the IRS considers payroll withholdings as spread throughout the year, so if you backload your withholdings from your day job at the end of the year, then you should be covered. You can also increase your estimated tax payments at the end of the year if a lot of your side income comes near the end of the year. This would be common for a new business which might not have a lot of revenues at the beginning of the year, but which could increase as the year progressed.

&lt;strong&gt;Regarding a new business:&lt;/strong&gt; You would still have to pay estimated taxes on the income, but as previously mentioned, you could pay only what you owe, when you owe it. The tax system is a pay-as-you-go system, so if your earnings at the beginning of the year are light, then you wouldn&#039;t owe much.  The other thing to be aware of is safe harbor laws, which basically state that as long as you pay X-amount above your previous year&#039;s tax obligation, then you will be OK in the eyes of the IRS.

Finally, day job income is pretty straight forward, but if you are dealing with self-employment or small business income, I highly recommend speaking with a small business advisor or accountant - they can explain these details as they apply to your situation and often help you find ways to save money. I use an accountant for all my tax needs and highly recommend it (I have saved much more on taxes than I have spent on professional tax services - always a win in my book!).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great questions, Sam, and I&#8217;ll answer to the best of my ability (and recommend you verify with a tax pro or otherwise follow up with your own research before acting). </p>
<p><strong>Irregular income + day job:</strong> If your irregular income is a pass through entity (sole proprietor, single person LLC, etc), then it&#8217;s essentially one pot of money. If this is the case, all the IRS is concerned with is that you pay enough taxes, and pay them on time. The US tax system is a pay-as-you-go system, which means you owe income tax when the money is earned. The good thing is that the IRS considers payroll withholdings as spread throughout the year, so if you backload your withholdings from your day job at the end of the year, then you should be covered. You can also increase your estimated tax payments at the end of the year if a lot of your side income comes near the end of the year. This would be common for a new business which might not have a lot of revenues at the beginning of the year, but which could increase as the year progressed.</p>
<p><strong>Regarding a new business:</strong> You would still have to pay estimated taxes on the income, but as previously mentioned, you could pay only what you owe, when you owe it. The tax system is a pay-as-you-go system, so if your earnings at the beginning of the year are light, then you wouldn&#8217;t owe much.  The other thing to be aware of is safe harbor laws, which basically state that as long as you pay X-amount above your previous year&#8217;s tax obligation, then you will be OK in the eyes of the IRS.</p>
<p>Finally, day job income is pretty straight forward, but if you are dealing with self-employment or small business income, I highly recommend speaking with a small business advisor or accountant &#8211; they can explain these details as they apply to your situation and often help you find ways to save money. I use an accountant for all my tax needs and highly recommend it (I have saved much more on taxes than I have spent on professional tax services &#8211; always a win in my book!).</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://cashmoneylife.com/calculate-estimated-taxes-guide/#comment-33191</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 23:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ryan,

What if you have a day job and make $200,000 and have normal taxes withheld, and earn an irregular income of maybe $30-80,000.  Do you still have to pay estimated taxes on that side income?

Also,  what if you launch in February, and have no idea what your side income will be that first year, but for 3 months you have a sense.  Do you still pay, or can you wait a fair full year cycle to get a better sense?

Thx!

Sam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ryan,</p>
<p>What if you have a day job and make $200,000 and have normal taxes withheld, and earn an irregular income of maybe $30-80,000.  Do you still have to pay estimated taxes on that side income?</p>
<p>Also,  what if you launch in February, and have no idea what your side income will be that first year, but for 3 months you have a sense.  Do you still pay, or can you wait a fair full year cycle to get a better sense?</p>
<p>Thx!</p>
<p>Sam</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://cashmoneylife.com/calculate-estimated-taxes-guide/#comment-19669</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 03:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert, I did something similar last year by withholding extra from my day job instead of paying estimated taxes for my small business income. It worked out well enough, but this year I planned a little better for my situation.

You can do a free electronic transfer to avoid fees, but if you insist on paying with your credit card, then you are probably out of luck in avoiding fees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert, I did something similar last year by withholding extra from my day job instead of paying estimated taxes for my small business income. It worked out well enough, but this year I planned a little better for my situation.</p>
<p>You can do a free electronic transfer to avoid fees, but if you insist on paying with your credit card, then you are probably out of luck in avoiding fees.</p>
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		<title>By: RobertSeattle</title>
		<link>http://cashmoneylife.com/calculate-estimated-taxes-guide/#comment-19663</link>
		<dc:creator>RobertSeattle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 20:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you are paid a salary and find yourself behind on estimated taxes, and can afford it, just have lots more taken out of salary late in the year.   The way the IRS calculates penalties, it &quot;doesnt&#039; care&quot; when salary based federal tax withholding occurs so it is a nice way to catch-up if you missed 1040-es payments.

I wish there was a way to pay 1040-ES taxes without the total rip-off 2.49% charged by the tax payment companies.    Why can&#039;t the IRS accept credit cards and get rid of the highway robbery middle man?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are paid a salary and find yourself behind on estimated taxes, and can afford it, just have lots more taken out of salary late in the year.   The way the IRS calculates penalties, it &#8220;doesnt&#8217; care&#8221; when salary based federal tax withholding occurs so it is a nice way to catch-up if you missed 1040-es payments.</p>
<p>I wish there was a way to pay 1040-ES taxes without the total rip-off 2.49% charged by the tax payment companies.    Why can&#8217;t the IRS accept credit cards and get rid of the highway robbery middle man?</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk Kinder</title>
		<link>http://cashmoneylife.com/calculate-estimated-taxes-guide/#comment-19543</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirk Kinder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 19:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Dan: I wouldn&#039;t worry too much about that. So long as the government gets their money they seem to be happy. I have even missed an estimated payment and made it up later in the year. Never heard a word. I know other self-employed folks who do this regularly. Again, it is better to do them quarterly, but I think the IRS just wants to make sure they get their bounty so they don&#039;t spend a lot of time chasing after folks who are a little late on paying. 

This may change as the government needs more and more revenue, but I haven&#039;t heard of them coming after self-employed folks. Now, if you have employees, you best be on time, especially with Social Security taxes or you will get a knock at the door.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dan: I wouldn&#8217;t worry too much about that. So long as the government gets their money they seem to be happy. I have even missed an estimated payment and made it up later in the year. Never heard a word. I know other self-employed folks who do this regularly. Again, it is better to do them quarterly, but I think the IRS just wants to make sure they get their bounty so they don&#8217;t spend a lot of time chasing after folks who are a little late on paying. </p>
<p>This may change as the government needs more and more revenue, but I haven&#8217;t heard of them coming after self-employed folks. Now, if you have employees, you best be on time, especially with Social Security taxes or you will get a knock at the door.</p>
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