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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://cashmoneylife.com/2009/06/04/swoopo-review-auction-deals-or-scam/comment-page-1/#comment-20283</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 00:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, here&#039;s my advice on Swoopo after trying it out myself.

It&#039;s a waste of your money.

I bought 40 bids (about $25 bucks worth) and did some research on some items.  I realized most, if not all the items that sold for way under price are sold between 11pm PDT and 4am PDT.  I added about 5 items to my watchlist that all ended between those times (mostly PS3&#039;s, video games and a cell phone).  

I was keeping actively bidding on the first PS3 with about 10 other people.  It was up to about $40 or $50 and I had only spent a couple of bids at this point, just watching the flow of the auction, but I was ready to stick it out to the end.

Anyway, the auction would hit near 1 or 2 seconds and you&#039;d see a bunch of bids go in at the last second, this happened to all items on auction so it seemed pretty normal.

At 12 seconds left (during one of the countdowns) the auction just ended and closed.  It went from 12 seconds to closed with NO explanation as to why.  The person who had recently bid won the PS3 at around $60 or so at this point.  I was ready to continue bidding and 12 seconds is a lot of time left on an item.

I have no idea why it went straight from 12 seconds to closed/ended.  The deadline for the auction (the absolute end date, which each auction item has) was still 2 days away.

I sent a message to Swoopo support using their own support section/form with the item number and asked why it went from 12 seconds to ended with no explanation.  They have yet to respond back to me and it&#039;s been 2 days.

My conclusion, either someone is watching these bids and closing them early for whatever reason or their system is seriously screwed up.  In either case, I wasted $25 bucks so you don&#039;t have to.

DO NOT USE SWOOPO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, here&#8217;s my advice on Swoopo after trying it out myself.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a waste of your money.</p>
<p>I bought 40 bids (about $25 bucks worth) and did some research on some items.  I realized most, if not all the items that sold for way under price are sold between 11pm PDT and 4am PDT.  I added about 5 items to my watchlist that all ended between those times (mostly PS3&#8217;s, video games and a cell phone).  </p>
<p>I was keeping actively bidding on the first PS3 with about 10 other people.  It was up to about $40 or $50 and I had only spent a couple of bids at this point, just watching the flow of the auction, but I was ready to stick it out to the end.</p>
<p>Anyway, the auction would hit near 1 or 2 seconds and you&#8217;d see a bunch of bids go in at the last second, this happened to all items on auction so it seemed pretty normal.</p>
<p>At 12 seconds left (during one of the countdowns) the auction just ended and closed.  It went from 12 seconds to closed with NO explanation as to why.  The person who had recently bid won the PS3 at around $60 or so at this point.  I was ready to continue bidding and 12 seconds is a lot of time left on an item.</p>
<p>I have no idea why it went straight from 12 seconds to closed/ended.  The deadline for the auction (the absolute end date, which each auction item has) was still 2 days away.</p>
<p>I sent a message to Swoopo support using their own support section/form with the item number and asked why it went from 12 seconds to ended with no explanation.  They have yet to respond back to me and it&#8217;s been 2 days.</p>
<p>My conclusion, either someone is watching these bids and closing them early for whatever reason or their system is seriously screwed up.  In either case, I wasted $25 bucks so you don&#8217;t have to.</p>
<p>DO NOT USE SWOOPO.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://cashmoneylife.com/2009/06/04/swoopo-review-auction-deals-or-scam/comment-page-1/#comment-20257</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bought some bids just a few minutes ago to try this out.  I&#039;ll be happy to post here again if/when I&#039;m able to win anything.  Naturally there&#039;s strategy to these bids and it&#039;ll take some getting use to.  The business model here is genius though and I admire that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bought some bids just a few minutes ago to try this out.  I&#8217;ll be happy to post here again if/when I&#8217;m able to win anything.  Naturally there&#8217;s strategy to these bids and it&#8217;ll take some getting use to.  The business model here is genius though and I admire that.</p>
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		<title>By: Dean Chaudhry</title>
		<link>http://cashmoneylife.com/2009/06/04/swoopo-review-auction-deals-or-scam/comment-page-1/#comment-20187</link>
		<dc:creator>Dean Chaudhry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I fully agree with Brian (July 1st thread). I personally do not know of anyone who has won. There is no real proof of any winnings and yes they do need to be investigated. I&#039;d like to speak personally to a &quot;winner&quot;.   If a Plasma went up to $200.00 on the final sale, (which brought in an astronomical $11,940.00) were there absolutely no bidders fighting for it past $200?? I have serious doubts about the companys ethics!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fully agree with Brian (July 1st thread). I personally do not know of anyone who has won. There is no real proof of any winnings and yes they do need to be investigated. I&#8217;d like to speak personally to a &#8220;winner&#8221;.   If a Plasma went up to $200.00 on the final sale, (which brought in an astronomical $11,940.00) were there absolutely no bidders fighting for it past $200?? I have serious doubts about the companys ethics!</p>
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		<title>By: SWOOPO RIP OFF</title>
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		<dc:creator>SWOOPO RIP OFF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 18:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RIP OFF DO NOT TRY!!!!!!!!!! RIP OFF!!!!!!!! STAY AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!BELIEVE ME WHEN I SAY TO YOU THAT YOU WILL ONLY LOSE YOUR MONEY!!!!!!!!RIP OFF!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RIP OFF DO NOT TRY!!!!!!!!!! RIP OFF!!!!!!!! STAY AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!BELIEVE ME WHEN I SAY TO YOU THAT YOU WILL ONLY LOSE YOUR MONEY!!!!!!!!RIP OFF!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: El Williams</title>
		<link>http://cashmoneylife.com/2009/06/04/swoopo-review-auction-deals-or-scam/comment-page-1/#comment-19776</link>
		<dc:creator>El Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 08:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Run! Run away as fast as possible.  Swoopo is the worst auction site in the history of the internet. Unless you are the owner of this site, your chances of winning an auction are next to impossible and lucky at best.  Stick to Ebay.  At least on Ebay when you put forth your best offer and lose, it wasn&#039;t because the computer gave the rest of the world 20 seconds to reconsider their offer. Also, paying to have the computer screw you adds insult to injury! Stick to Ebay. If you lose there, at least you haven&#039;t paid for the lucky winner&#039;s product and the website owner&#039;s profit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Run! Run away as fast as possible.  Swoopo is the worst auction site in the history of the internet. Unless you are the owner of this site, your chances of winning an auction are next to impossible and lucky at best.  Stick to Ebay.  At least on Ebay when you put forth your best offer and lose, it wasn&#8217;t because the computer gave the rest of the world 20 seconds to reconsider their offer. Also, paying to have the computer screw you adds insult to injury! Stick to Ebay. If you lose there, at least you haven&#8217;t paid for the lucky winner&#8217;s product and the website owner&#8217;s profit.</p>
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		<title>By: paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 15:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you sniffed it!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you sniffed it!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Moulay</title>
		<link>http://cashmoneylife.com/2009/06/04/swoopo-review-auction-deals-or-scam/comment-page-1/#comment-18816</link>
		<dc:creator>Moulay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 23:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is very interesting. I stumbled upon the swoopo site accedentally while looking up a Min HP 2133. A MacBook popped up from swoopo instead. It is selling for less than $50 right now. It caught my eye and I checked a few of the auctions. Just incredible! I was so suspicious that I started looking into the legitimicy of it. I ended up here...
In such a business model, I can set this up and based on the comments of Brian (above), I can enuldge in luring bidders in and would make one bidder win. In fact, bidders do win. However, are those items won the same as those bidders get. I mean, after such an incredible revenue (profit), I could go and buy a brand new item from a retailer and ship it to the bid winner. No problem! The cost is 1 tenth or one hundredth of the earnings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is very interesting. I stumbled upon the swoopo site accedentally while looking up a Min HP 2133. A MacBook popped up from swoopo instead. It is selling for less than $50 right now. It caught my eye and I checked a few of the auctions. Just incredible! I was so suspicious that I started looking into the legitimicy of it. I ended up here&#8230;<br />
In such a business model, I can set this up and based on the comments of Brian (above), I can enuldge in luring bidders in and would make one bidder win. In fact, bidders do win. However, are those items won the same as those bidders get. I mean, after such an incredible revenue (profit), I could go and buy a brand new item from a retailer and ship it to the bid winner. No problem! The cost is 1 tenth or one hundredth of the earnings.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://cashmoneylife.com/2009/06/04/swoopo-review-auction-deals-or-scam/comment-page-1/#comment-18813</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 22:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the business model is ingenious.  However, I would not participate for the very same reason the gentlemen who posted above me lost a day worth of pay trying to win auctions.  

Being that the Business itself is making money off the bids, I would feel there would be less likelihood for any internal monitoring system from preventing a self-outbidding scheme from taking place. 

Lets look at it this way.  

Swoopo puts up a hot item... lets say a 50&quot; Plasma TV.  Bidding opens up at $1.00 with a half hour bidding time. 

It gets a few bids and by the time it reaches a 5-Minute marker it is still priced rather low at lets say $27.00.

Now is where the &quot;Fun&quot; begins.  With time breaking 5-Minute marker, the bidders watching the auctions are getting more tempted to closely watch the item to try to &quot;pick&quot; their moment, hoping no one else is going to bid.

By the time it breaks 1 Minute remainder time on auction, the 50&quot; Plasma is up to $50.00.    If it was a $0.01 auction item, each bid was increasing the auction price by $0.01 / increasing seconds on item by 1-4 seconds (from what I witness watching an auction today).  Each bid transaction comes at a cost of $0.60.  For the item to have reached a price of $50.00, there would have been4,900 bids  @ $0.60 a bid for a total item sale value of $2,940.00 for that 50&quot; Plasma.  ($49.00 / $0.01 x $0.60 = $2,940.00)  I doubt they paid retail value for that 50&quot; Plasma, so the percentage of Markup on the item sold even at $50.00 would be well over 100%.  

That&#039;s just the icing on the cake.

Now lets say Joe Blow was banking on getting himself a cheap Plasma and this looked like too sweet a deal to pass up.  Joes been bidding since the minute marker and made a grand total of 30 bids (30 bids @ $0.60 = $18.00).  Lets be honest, $18.00 isn&#039;t that much money really, but if Joe doesn&#039;t win the bid, he spent $18.00 on absolutely nothing.  Compound that by the thousands and you really got a huge rip off scheme going.

And I am hardly finished.  What Joe Blow doesn&#039;t realize, along with the hundreds of other participating bidders, is that Swoopo stacked the decks!  They&#039;ve got auto-auction bidders who will continually outbid you on every item till the finally tick of the clock.  

As I said earlier, who is monitoring these auctions to ensure that this is not happening and how is someone to know they auctions are legit?  Who is to say that  Swoopo hasn&#039;t set into place an auto-bidding program behind their website for every available auction, or that they aren&#039;t hiring people on the side to bid on the items themselves, and paying them a percentage of the bottom line $$$ markups they are making off of items.  Who is tracking the items sold to ensure there are actually items being delivered to &quot;customers&quot; as you might think of them.  

I highly doubt there is any monitoring of a site in this nature, and I am willing to bet that there is a indecipherable user agreement the length of a full series of encyclopedias covering Swoopo&#039;s A$$ for the legality of the business they are conducting.

If that penny auction 50&quot; Plasma went up to $200.00 on the final sale, Swoopo brought in an astronomical $11,940.00  for a set that would have retailed $1000.00 - $2000.00 in stores today.

If Swoopo is engaging in self bidding on auctions, and they do not actually let a real bidder/customer win an auction, that $11,940.00 would be ALL PROFIT, since in fact no item was sold or delivered to a &quot;customer&quot;/bidder.  I don&#039;t care how they may be doing it, but I would be very skeptical on the ethics of this business and would lean towards the angle that this may in fact be the very thing they are doing.

Someone ought to have the business investigated for fraud.

Good deal or not for an individual purchase, this is capitalistic mentality at it&#039;s dirtiest.  

Hey... SWOOPO... CUT ME IN!!! I&#039;ll bid on your auctions for you all day for a measly 1% of your profits from the auctions I partake in, and laugh my A$$ off all the way to the bank just like you are doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the business model is ingenious.  However, I would not participate for the very same reason the gentlemen who posted above me lost a day worth of pay trying to win auctions.  </p>
<p>Being that the Business itself is making money off the bids, I would feel there would be less likelihood for any internal monitoring system from preventing a self-outbidding scheme from taking place. </p>
<p>Lets look at it this way.  </p>
<p>Swoopo puts up a hot item&#8230; lets say a 50&#8243; Plasma TV.  Bidding opens up at $1.00 with a half hour bidding time. </p>
<p>It gets a few bids and by the time it reaches a 5-Minute marker it is still priced rather low at lets say $27.00.</p>
<p>Now is where the &#8220;Fun&#8221; begins.  With time breaking 5-Minute marker, the bidders watching the auctions are getting more tempted to closely watch the item to try to &#8220;pick&#8221; their moment, hoping no one else is going to bid.</p>
<p>By the time it breaks 1 Minute remainder time on auction, the 50&#8243; Plasma is up to $50.00.    If it was a $0.01 auction item, each bid was increasing the auction price by $0.01 / increasing seconds on item by 1-4 seconds (from what I witness watching an auction today).  Each bid transaction comes at a cost of $0.60.  For the item to have reached a price of $50.00, there would have been4,900 bids  @ $0.60 a bid for a total item sale value of $2,940.00 for that 50&#8243; Plasma.  ($49.00 / $0.01 x $0.60 = $2,940.00)  I doubt they paid retail value for that 50&#8243; Plasma, so the percentage of Markup on the item sold even at $50.00 would be well over 100%.  </p>
<p>That&#8217;s just the icing on the cake.</p>
<p>Now lets say Joe Blow was banking on getting himself a cheap Plasma and this looked like too sweet a deal to pass up.  Joes been bidding since the minute marker and made a grand total of 30 bids (30 bids @ $0.60 = $18.00).  Lets be honest, $18.00 isn&#8217;t that much money really, but if Joe doesn&#8217;t win the bid, he spent $18.00 on absolutely nothing.  Compound that by the thousands and you really got a huge rip off scheme going.</p>
<p>And I am hardly finished.  What Joe Blow doesn&#8217;t realize, along with the hundreds of other participating bidders, is that Swoopo stacked the decks!  They&#8217;ve got auto-auction bidders who will continually outbid you on every item till the finally tick of the clock.  </p>
<p>As I said earlier, who is monitoring these auctions to ensure that this is not happening and how is someone to know they auctions are legit?  Who is to say that  Swoopo hasn&#8217;t set into place an auto-bidding program behind their website for every available auction, or that they aren&#8217;t hiring people on the side to bid on the items themselves, and paying them a percentage of the bottom line $$$ markups they are making off of items.  Who is tracking the items sold to ensure there are actually items being delivered to &#8220;customers&#8221; as you might think of them.  </p>
<p>I highly doubt there is any monitoring of a site in this nature, and I am willing to bet that there is a indecipherable user agreement the length of a full series of encyclopedias covering Swoopo&#8217;s A$$ for the legality of the business they are conducting.</p>
<p>If that penny auction 50&#8243; Plasma went up to $200.00 on the final sale, Swoopo brought in an astronomical $11,940.00  for a set that would have retailed $1000.00 &#8211; $2000.00 in stores today.</p>
<p>If Swoopo is engaging in self bidding on auctions, and they do not actually let a real bidder/customer win an auction, that $11,940.00 would be ALL PROFIT, since in fact no item was sold or delivered to a &#8220;customer&#8221;/bidder.  I don&#8217;t care how they may be doing it, but I would be very skeptical on the ethics of this business and would lean towards the angle that this may in fact be the very thing they are doing.</p>
<p>Someone ought to have the business investigated for fraud.</p>
<p>Good deal or not for an individual purchase, this is capitalistic mentality at it&#8217;s dirtiest.  </p>
<p>Hey&#8230; SWOOPO&#8230; CUT ME IN!!! I&#8217;ll bid on your auctions for you all day for a measly 1% of your profits from the auctions I partake in, and laugh my A$$ off all the way to the bank just like you are doing.</p>
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		<title>By: nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a COMPLETE scam. i paid over 20 bucks on one auction, were there were many people bidding. every time i would bid, many people would also bid right after. But the one time i dont bid, its like everyone just stops bidding and someone wins. It would be a coincidence if i happedned 1s or 2s. But this happened around 7 times for me and i lost a days pay check. SCAM, dont do it, its worse than gambling and its a complete scam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a COMPLETE scam. i paid over 20 bucks on one auction, were there were many people bidding. every time i would bid, many people would also bid right after. But the one time i dont bid, its like everyone just stops bidding and someone wins. It would be a coincidence if i happedned 1s or 2s. But this happened around 7 times for me and i lost a days pay check. SCAM, dont do it, its worse than gambling and its a complete scam</p>
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		<title>By: mitsu gon</title>
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		<dc:creator>mitsu gon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 04:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah  think about  if the swoopo sell a tv 56&quot; for   $120.00   and every bid you pay $0,75     bid go up 0,15 cents      total price $750.oo    still they can make alot money .
 you pay cheap but  the money is on the  bid .  just like buy a lot ticket

  you pay $1.00 but could win million  .

  i buy alot things  on swoopo   didnt make me rich yet  but gave me new life . 
   cause you still can resell what you buy .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah  think about  if the swoopo sell a tv 56&#8243; for   $120.00   and every bid you pay $0,75     bid go up 0,15 cents      total price $750.oo    still they can make alot money .<br />
 you pay cheap but  the money is on the  bid .  just like buy a lot ticket</p>
<p>  you pay $1.00 but could win million  .</p>
<p>  i buy alot things  on swoopo   didnt make me rich yet  but gave me new life .<br />
   cause you still can resell what you buy .</p>
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