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		<title>By: My Journey</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 18:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Miss J, 

Lot to digest but I feel you deserve some insight:

1)  Life insurance is income tax free.  As opposed to what most finaicial planners tell you - it is 90% of the time included in your estate for estate tax purposes (there are advanced ways to get it out of your estate).  So, if you had assets totalling $500,000 and you had a $1,000,000 policy.  You would pay 0 in federal estate tax (because you can leave up to $3.5 Mil to a non-spousal US bene) but you might hit a State Estate Tax if you live in one of 18 states which are decoupled. 

2)  Second your end number is $1.67mil or something doesn&#039;t into account future growth of that money.  If you are trying to get how much you need that way (e.g. Income Replacement) you need to do the present value of that number given a specific growth rate (I would use something really low because the kid is going to have to be conservtive so like a 2.5% NET to 3.5% NET).  

3)  In terms of the mortgage you should build an excel spread sheet seeing how much that takes off your husband&#039;s need.  

4)  As you can tell from the above comments and my guest post on this blog - I like whole life insurance because you know why  - 99% of us (including myself) do not buy term and invest difference!   How much cash do you have built up in the WL? If it was int he last 2 or 3 years the number is 0, but if its 10 years deep you&#039;ll be suprised how much cash is there, you can then do a lump sum 1 time pay off of UL or diff type of term.  

JUST SOME THOUGHTS!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miss J, </p>
<p>Lot to digest but I feel you deserve some insight:</p>
<p>1)  Life insurance is income tax free.  As opposed to what most finaicial planners tell you &#8211; it is 90% of the time included in your estate for estate tax purposes (there are advanced ways to get it out of your estate).  So, if you had assets totalling $500,000 and you had a $1,000,000 policy.  You would pay 0 in federal estate tax (because you can leave up to $3.5 Mil to a non-spousal US bene) but you might hit a State Estate Tax if you live in one of 18 states which are decoupled. </p>
<p>2)  Second your end number is $1.67mil or something doesn&#8217;t into account future growth of that money.  If you are trying to get how much you need that way (e.g. Income Replacement) you need to do the present value of that number given a specific growth rate (I would use something really low because the kid is going to have to be conservtive so like a 2.5% NET to 3.5% NET).  </p>
<p>3)  In terms of the mortgage you should build an excel spread sheet seeing how much that takes off your husband&#8217;s need.  </p>
<p>4)  As you can tell from the above comments and my guest post on this blog &#8211; I like whole life insurance because you know why  &#8211; 99% of us (including myself) do not buy term and invest difference!   How much cash do you have built up in the WL? If it was int he last 2 or 3 years the number is 0, but if its 10 years deep you&#8217;ll be suprised how much cash is there, you can then do a lump sum 1 time pay off of UL or diff type of term.  </p>
<p>JUST SOME THOUGHTS!</p>
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		<title>By: Miss J</title>
		<link>http://cashmoneylife.com/2009/04/06/how-much-life-insurance-do-you-need/comment-page-1/#comment-19250</link>
		<dc:creator>Miss J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 17:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey there. Insurance shopping. We have one child, 3 months old.  Anyways...Are life insurance benefits taxed?  Becasue my before tax and after tax incomes are VERY different and that makes quite a difference in how I calculate the &quot;rule of thumb&quot;.

Our son needs 21 years of &quot;income replacement&quot;.  I make $78,000 a year (pre-tax) so I would need  $1,638,000 in life insurance!?  That seems like an awful lot... If I calculate it post tax then it&#039;s still about 1.2 million which still seems like a lot...but maybe I&#039;m just being naive about the whole situation...

Also, providing that if I were to die, my husband could take a lump sum of cash and pay off our 30 year mortgage we would save an INCREDIBLE amount on interest...so doesn&#039;t that reduce the amount of life insurance we need? For instance our $235,000 mortgage comes out to about $1,600 a month of which a whopping $1,100 goes to interest right now.  I know that as time goes on less and less of our payment will go towards interest...but still this mortgage interest factor must affect the calculation some how?

Currently I have 600K worth of coverage. 100K through work and a 500K whole life policy (don&#039;t get me started on that...I feel really ripped off by the financial planner who sold it to me...but I digress).  I feel like I need a little more coverage but not DOUBLE...what do you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey there. Insurance shopping. We have one child, 3 months old.  Anyways&#8230;Are life insurance benefits taxed?  Becasue my before tax and after tax incomes are VERY different and that makes quite a difference in how I calculate the &#8220;rule of thumb&#8221;.</p>
<p>Our son needs 21 years of &#8220;income replacement&#8221;.  I make $78,000 a year (pre-tax) so I would need  $1,638,000 in life insurance!?  That seems like an awful lot&#8230; If I calculate it post tax then it&#8217;s still about 1.2 million which still seems like a lot&#8230;but maybe I&#8217;m just being naive about the whole situation&#8230;</p>
<p>Also, providing that if I were to die, my husband could take a lump sum of cash and pay off our 30 year mortgage we would save an INCREDIBLE amount on interest&#8230;so doesn&#8217;t that reduce the amount of life insurance we need? For instance our $235,000 mortgage comes out to about $1,600 a month of which a whopping $1,100 goes to interest right now.  I know that as time goes on less and less of our payment will go towards interest&#8230;but still this mortgage interest factor must affect the calculation some how?</p>
<p>Currently I have 600K worth of coverage. 100K through work and a 500K whole life policy (don&#8217;t get me started on that&#8230;I feel really ripped off by the financial planner who sold it to me&#8230;but I digress).  I feel like I need a little more coverage but not DOUBLE&#8230;what do you think?</p>
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		<title>By: Dez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Humm, I take you IF I don&#039;t have dependents but I have a sizeable estate, I don&#039;t need insurance to pay taxes for the beneficary?  IF I&#039;m poor I don&#039;t need insurance to pay for a funeral?  If over 65 and I am married, my kids are grown, my spouse wouldn&#039;t need to replace the lost income from my soical security nor would my spouse need to live after I&#039;m gone? 

I&#039;ve never seen such a crazy statement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Humm, I take you IF I don&#8217;t have dependents but I have a sizeable estate, I don&#8217;t need insurance to pay taxes for the beneficary?  IF I&#8217;m poor I don&#8217;t need insurance to pay for a funeral?  If over 65 and I am married, my kids are grown, my spouse wouldn&#8217;t need to replace the lost income from my soical security nor would my spouse need to live after I&#8217;m gone? </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never seen such a crazy statement.</p>
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		<title>By: Bret</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 04:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently started an internship with a mutual company and am on the (never ending I assume) path to learn everything about each concept (whole vs. term) and each product so I can best serve my clients and have a lucrative career that allows me to sleep at night. I&#039;ve read that the average person will make additions to their original commitment 5-7 times over their lifetime. From a purely financial standpoint, I would much rather see the first year commissions from all 5-7 purchases, even if it&#039;s term, by best serving my clients needs and situations then to push a whole life policy in order to get more cash. And that&#039;s purely a financial move, not to mention ethical. Every negative thing I&#039;ve read about products, rates of return, and sales tactics make me feel more and more secure about my position with this company and the standards which they teach and promote. Granted, not every agent will follow those and act in the best interest of the client, but that&#039;s really more of a comment on greed and human nature then that of companies or insurance products. If you&#039;re thinking about making a wise decision with your finances (insurance, investments, whatever) then you should also be willing to put time and effort into researching and getting the facts before hand. Not to say that deception is excusable by any means, but I think the responsibility lies in the clients hands, in being knowledgeable and seeking council prior to any major financial decision, just as much as the agent or company. Simply put, term is good for what it does and whole is good for what it does. It&#039;s just a matter of if &quot;what it does&quot; is what you need. My company may be paying 6.5% for a return which isn&#039;t the 10% that people compare it to (btw they never mention what in the world is yielding 10%), but the principle is guaranteed to not go down and the policy and cash value will do (for the most part) what the ledger states in the beginning. We&#039;re all grown ups, do your research and ask a lot of questions to people who are reputable and don&#039;t stand to make a profit off of you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently started an internship with a mutual company and am on the (never ending I assume) path to learn everything about each concept (whole vs. term) and each product so I can best serve my clients and have a lucrative career that allows me to sleep at night. I&#8217;ve read that the average person will make additions to their original commitment 5-7 times over their lifetime. From a purely financial standpoint, I would much rather see the first year commissions from all 5-7 purchases, even if it&#8217;s term, by best serving my clients needs and situations then to push a whole life policy in order to get more cash. And that&#8217;s purely a financial move, not to mention ethical. Every negative thing I&#8217;ve read about products, rates of return, and sales tactics make me feel more and more secure about my position with this company and the standards which they teach and promote. Granted, not every agent will follow those and act in the best interest of the client, but that&#8217;s really more of a comment on greed and human nature then that of companies or insurance products. If you&#8217;re thinking about making a wise decision with your finances (insurance, investments, whatever) then you should also be willing to put time and effort into researching and getting the facts before hand. Not to say that deception is excusable by any means, but I think the responsibility lies in the clients hands, in being knowledgeable and seeking council prior to any major financial decision, just as much as the agent or company. Simply put, term is good for what it does and whole is good for what it does. It&#8217;s just a matter of if &#8220;what it does&#8221; is what you need. My company may be paying 6.5% for a return which isn&#8217;t the 10% that people compare it to (btw they never mention what in the world is yielding 10%), but the principle is guaranteed to not go down and the policy and cash value will do (for the most part) what the ledger states in the beginning. We&#8217;re all grown ups, do your research and ask a lot of questions to people who are reputable and don&#8217;t stand to make a profit off of you.</p>
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		<title>By: Dough Roller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dough Roller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 18:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article.  It hit home for me because like the author, life insurance helped me get through college, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article.  It hit home for me because like the author, life insurance helped me get through college, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 17:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll probably try the patch - that&#039;s the best life insurance policy I can buy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll probably try the patch &#8211; that&#8217;s the best life insurance policy I can buy!</p>
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		<title>By: My Journey</title>
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		<dc:creator>My Journey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 22:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, I should repeat, I am not attempting to sell life insurance over the internet - To date, I have never sold a single policy (that may change eventually).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, I should repeat, I am not attempting to sell life insurance over the internet &#8211; To date, I have never sold a single policy (that may change eventually).</p>
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		<title>By: My Journey</title>
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		<dc:creator>My Journey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 22:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan, 

WOAH 2 packs a day? Considering we are talking about stuff over the comment section I can&#039;t tell if you are being sarcastic or not.  But if you are serious you can&#039;t possibly be bitching about the cost of life insurance.  

Considering I like Patrick  and his readers lol I decided to run a quote for you: 
Lets say you are 45 and pay 300 a month for 30 Year Term - note that 300 is LESS than the amount of 2 packs a day ($5/pack X 30 - in NY a pack is over $7).  This amount will buy you OVER $320,000 GUARANTEED.  

I work for a AAA Rated (one of the few left) company that has been around about 150 or so years lol.   Which means you CAN even get cheaper term somewhere else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, </p>
<p>WOAH 2 packs a day? Considering we are talking about stuff over the comment section I can&#8217;t tell if you are being sarcastic or not.  But if you are serious you can&#8217;t possibly be bitching about the cost of life insurance.  </p>
<p>Considering I like Patrick  and his readers lol I decided to run a quote for you:<br />
Lets say you are 45 and pay 300 a month for 30 Year Term &#8211; note that 300 is LESS than the amount of 2 packs a day ($5/pack X 30 &#8211; in NY a pack is over $7).  This amount will buy you OVER $320,000 GUARANTEED.  </p>
<p>I work for a AAA Rated (one of the few left) company that has been around about 150 or so years lol.   Which means you CAN even get cheaper term somewhere else.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 21:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, my two packs a day are costing me big now....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, my two packs a day are costing me big now&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: My Journey</title>
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		<dc:creator>My Journey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan, 

While this may not be appropriate but I think of term insurance as the bottom of a pyramid.  Do you really need to be dropping in 500 a month into a Roth IRA (not saying you do - just making a point) if your family can&#039;t survive past your demise?   

Not sure if you do...but stop smoking! With the increase in the federal tax on smoking going from 39 cents to over a buck, now is as good as ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, </p>
<p>While this may not be appropriate but I think of term insurance as the bottom of a pyramid.  Do you really need to be dropping in 500 a month into a Roth IRA (not saying you do &#8211; just making a point) if your family can&#8217;t survive past your demise?   </p>
<p>Not sure if you do&#8230;but stop smoking! With the increase in the federal tax on smoking going from 39 cents to over a buck, now is as good as ever.</p>
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