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	<title>Comments on: My New Hobby &#8211; Watching My Home Value Decrease</title>
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		<title>By: Miss M</title>
		<link>http://cashmoneylife.com/2008/11/20/home-values-decreasing/comment-page-1/#comment-15613</link>
		<dc:creator>Miss M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 03:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Based on my own comp estimates Zillow is still overvaluing my house. It agrees I&#039;m underwater, but not by much. Looking at actual sales in my neighborhood, that number is over $100k. Whether a house is a dump or not is a different issue than how it was sold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Based on my own comp estimates Zillow is still overvaluing my house. It agrees I&#8217;m underwater, but not by much. Looking at actual sales in my neighborhood, that number is over $100k. Whether a house is a dump or not is a different issue than how it was sold.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://cashmoneylife.com/2008/11/20/home-values-decreasing/comment-page-1/#comment-15543</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Funny About Money: &lt;/strong&gt;The stock market is similar - it&#039;s all unrealized gains and losses until the asset (stock or other property) is sold. 

You&#039;re right, people should worry about things they can change, or that are currently affecting their way of life. but it&#039;s also good to keep tabs on property values, and using Zillow can be a decent tool to do that. But there are no hard and fast values for the property market, so relying on one source may not be the best way to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Funny About Money: </strong>The stock market is similar &#8211; it&#8217;s all unrealized gains and losses until the asset (stock or other property) is sold. </p>
<p>You&#8217;re right, people should worry about things they can change, or that are currently affecting their way of life. but it&#8217;s also good to keep tabs on property values, and using Zillow can be a decent tool to do that. But there are no hard and fast values for the property market, so relying on one source may not be the best way to go.</p>
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		<title>By: Moments of Fame &#171; Funny about Money</title>
		<link>http://cashmoneylife.com/2008/11/20/home-values-decreasing/comment-page-1/#comment-15537</link>
		<dc:creator>Moments of Fame &#171; Funny about Money</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 16:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Financial Wellness Project has posted this week&#8217;s Carnival of Money Stories, where Funny&#8217;s tale of the $86 flu shot appears. FWP&#8217;s favorite is Polly Poorhouse&#8217;s long rumination on the value of a home, which indeed is very good. Retire at 40 has an interesting reflection about his experience with a four-day work week. And over at Cash Money Life, guest post writer Randall is obsessing the way many of us have been doing: watching his property value drop. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Financial Wellness Project has posted this week&#8217;s Carnival of Money Stories, where Funny&#8217;s tale of the $86 flu shot appears. FWP&#8217;s favorite is Polly Poorhouse&#8217;s long rumination on the value of a home, which indeed is very good. Retire at 40 has an interesting reflection about his experience with a four-day work week. And over at Cash Money Life, guest post writer Randall is obsessing the way many of us have been doing: watching his property value drop. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Funny about Money</title>
		<link>http://cashmoneylife.com/2008/11/20/home-values-decreasing/comment-page-1/#comment-15535</link>
		<dc:creator>Funny about Money</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t be taken in by that. It&#039;s absurd. 

In the first place, Zillow is not accurate. In the second place, &quot;Zestimates&quot; are solely based on comps, which in this instance are not comps: it takes the prices of auctions on the courthouse steps as the same as sales of clean, well maintained houses; and this skews the weight of the actual resale prices that speculators get when they turn the places around.

The shack across the street from me, which was a certifiable dump, sold for $152,900 (vs. the $235,000 I paid for mine, which at one point was laughably valued at $375,000 and is now more realistically worth about $290,000). The bottom feeder who grabbed it sold it for $175,000. The speculator who paid that came in and cleaned out the mess, replastered the pool, installed a watering system, cleaned up the landscaping, had the house painted inside and out, put down new tile and carpeting, redid the kitchen and bathrooms, and now has it on the market for $269,900. If she gets $260,000 for it -- which she will -- my house&#039;s value not only has NOT dropped below what I paid, it probably has increased in the absence of a slum property across the street. 

So... a) it&#039;s bull puckey; and b) we can&#039;t do anything about it anyway, so we should find something we actually can help to worry about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t be taken in by that. It&#8217;s absurd. </p>
<p>In the first place, Zillow is not accurate. In the second place, &#8220;Zestimates&#8221; are solely based on comps, which in this instance are not comps: it takes the prices of auctions on the courthouse steps as the same as sales of clean, well maintained houses; and this skews the weight of the actual resale prices that speculators get when they turn the places around.</p>
<p>The shack across the street from me, which was a certifiable dump, sold for $152,900 (vs. the $235,000 I paid for mine, which at one point was laughably valued at $375,000 and is now more realistically worth about $290,000). The bottom feeder who grabbed it sold it for $175,000. The speculator who paid that came in and cleaned out the mess, replastered the pool, installed a watering system, cleaned up the landscaping, had the house painted inside and out, put down new tile and carpeting, redid the kitchen and bathrooms, and now has it on the market for $269,900. If she gets $260,000 for it &#8212; which she will &#8212; my house&#8217;s value not only has NOT dropped below what I paid, it probably has increased in the absence of a slum property across the street. </p>
<p>So&#8230; a) it&#8217;s bull puckey; and b) we can&#8217;t do anything about it anyway, so we should find something we actually can help to worry about.</p>
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		<title>By: financial wellness project &#187; 87th edition of the carnival of money stories!</title>
		<link>http://cashmoneylife.com/2008/11/20/home-values-decreasing/comment-page-1/#comment-15528</link>
		<dc:creator>financial wellness project &#187; 87th edition of the carnival of money stories!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 06:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] @ Cash Money Life gets hooked on a new tool called Zestimate in My New Hobby - Watching My Home Value Decrease posted at Cash Money [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Four Pillars Investing</title>
		<link>http://cashmoneylife.com/2008/11/20/home-values-decreasing/comment-page-1/#comment-15398</link>
		<dc:creator>Four Pillars Investing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 10:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A guest post he did recently called my new hobby - watching my home value decrease. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jarhead</title>
		<link>http://cashmoneylife.com/2008/11/20/home-values-decreasing/comment-page-1/#comment-15357</link>
		<dc:creator>Jarhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 06:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Single Guy,

Like you I watch my 401k drop just to see how bad it is doing.  Damn it can be depressing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Single Guy,</p>
<p>Like you I watch my 401k drop just to see how bad it is doing.  Damn it can be depressing.</p>
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		<title>By: Randall at CreditWithdrawal</title>
		<link>http://cashmoneylife.com/2008/11/20/home-values-decreasing/comment-page-1/#comment-15354</link>
		<dc:creator>Randall at CreditWithdrawal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 01:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, Zillow may be off some, but it&#039;s more the rate of DECREASE that is the shocking factor, not the price. 

I think that price is a little low too, but I haven&#039;t actually tried to sell the house yet. And the house is only worth as much as someone else is willing to pay for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Zillow may be off some, but it&#8217;s more the rate of DECREASE that is the shocking factor, not the price. </p>
<p>I think that price is a little low too, but I haven&#8217;t actually tried to sell the house yet. And the house is only worth as much as someone else is willing to pay for it.</p>
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