How Many Retirement Accounts Can You Have?

by Ryan on July 16, 2008

How many retirement accounts can you have? Earlier this week a reader asked me this same question, and I promised a response. The specific question regarded owning both Traditional and Roth IRAs, and whether or not having an employee sponsored 401(k) plan would affect her eligibility for those accounts. The answer is yes, you can have both types of IRAs, and no, your 401(k) plan doesn’t affect your eligibility to contribute to an IRA. Here are some more detailed answers:

Can you have both a Roth and Traditional IRA?

Yes. You can own both a Roth and Traditional IRA, and you can contribute to both in the same tax year. The important thing to remember is that you cannot contribute more than the maximum contribution limit across all IRA accounts in any given tax year. Depending on your income level, the max contribution for 2008 is $5,000 ($6,000 if you are over 50). For more information on Roth and Traditional IRAs, read this article: Roth IRA vs Traditional IRA.

Can you have more than one IRA Account?

Yes, you can open multiple IRA accounts and they can be held with multiple companies. Again, remember not to contribute more than the contribution limit across all IRA accounts in a given tax year. You can also have one IRA account with multiple investments within the account. This makes it easier to diversify your retirement holdings and maintain easier control over your account administration.

Can you have more than one 401(k) Account?

Yes. A 401(k) plan is an employer sponsored retirement plan. When you leave your job, you have to make decisions regarding your old 401(k) plan. You will need to decide whether to leave the assets in place (if allowed by your former plan’s rules), roll over the assets into an IRA, roll the assets into a new 401(k) plan, withdraw the assets in a lump sum, or transfer the assets into a qualified annuity. For more detailed information, read about your options for your 401(k) when leaving your job.

What about other retirement plans?

There are many other retirement plans out there including SEP-IRAs, SIMPLE IRAs, solo 401(k) plans, annuities, and more. As a general rule of thumb, you can have multiple accounts for these as well. Keep in mind there may be eligibility, contribution, and income requirements associated with these types of accounts, so you should do a little more research before opening new accounts.

Advantages and disadvantages of owning multiple retirement accounts

Fewer accounts is usually easier to manage. For most people, consolidating retirement accounts is the best plan because it is easier to manage asset allocation, fees, withdrawals, taxes, paperwork, account questions, and transferring assets to beneficiaries. Many people choose to manage their accounts with a well known fund companies such as Vanguard, Fidelity, T. Rowe Price, or with discount brokers such as ShareBuilder, Zecco, or Trade King.

There can be advantages of owning multiple retirement accounts, however. A good example of this would be if you had a 401(k) plan that had investment funds or low management fees that you couldn’t match elsewhere. If your current investment is better than what you can get somewhere else, there is no need to consolidate it just to reduce a small amount of paperwork.

My current retirement accounts

I currently have a Roth IRA (with several different funds in it), two 401(k) plans, and an account with the Thrift Savings Plan (TSP) (government version of a 401(k)). I could roll my old 401(k) plan into my new one, but I haven’t decided whether or not to do that yet. I can also roll over my TSP account into a 401(k) plan or IRA, but there is a special provision that allows military members who receive tax free combat pay to contribute tax free funds to their TSP account. TSP contributions are normally pre-tax contributions and are taxed upon withdrawal, but the portion of the contributions I made while in a tax free zone can be withdrawn tax free as well. I would lose the tax free withdrawals if I transferred my TSP funds into a different account.

Note: Please keep in mind, this is general information. There may be other factors that affect how much you can contribute or which accounts you may be eligible for. Some of these factors include income level, type of employment, employer sponsored retirement plans and more.

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Should You Rollover Your TSP Account Into an IRA?
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1 Ryan July 16, 2008 at 11:55 am

Would you please add a section about over contributing to an account during a fiscal year.

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2 Ryan July 16, 2008 at 12:23 pm

Ryan,

That’s a great idea, but I think it would flow better if I wrote that in a separate article.

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3 deepali July 16, 2008 at 1:30 pm

Good sum. I have 2 403bs, 1 401k, 2 Roth IRAs, and 2 Trad IRA. Actually, I think there is another Roth and another Trad somewhere. :)

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4 Ryan July 16, 2008 at 1:32 pm

deepali, you’ve got quite a few retirement plans! You might consider consolidating a few of them if the fees aren’t too much. It’s easier keeping track of everything when it is under one roof. ;)

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5 Jarhead July 16, 2008 at 2:50 pm

I have the just the TSP now, but once I can get out from under this pile of debt I racked up I am going to start a Roth.

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6 tiffanie July 16, 2008 at 10:12 pm

thanks for helping me earlier this week, and for posting this! you clarified a lot for me :)

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7 Pinyo July 16, 2008 at 10:18 pm

This is a good informative post. I just want to add that your contribution could be limited by how much you make. For instance, my parents can only contribute to Roth IRA, but not traditional.

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8 Ryan July 16, 2008 at 10:22 pm

Good point, Pinyo. I’ll make sure that is in there. :)

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9 Dividends4Life July 24, 2008 at 2:17 pm

Great read! As Pinyo pointed out, all have limitations (earnings and contributions). If you are close, you need to understand where the edge is.

Best Wishes,
D4L

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10 diane mcgill October 31, 2008 at 10:43 pm

my husband has a roth ira, a 40lK where he works full time. He also works at his own business and has a sep. My question is. Can he transfer this sep (in mutual fundsnow) to a brokerage firm and invest in the stock market, get in and out without paying taxes until retirement?

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11 Ryan November 2, 2008 at 4:13 pm

Diane: As long as your husband’s SEP IRA remains in a SEP, he can change the allocation without paying taxes. HE would only have to pay taxes on it if he withdraws the funds.

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12 mark November 19, 2008 at 8:36 pm

Regarding multiple retirement plans, can I contribute pre-tax contributions to a company sponsored SIMPLE and have the company fund 403b contributions at the same time? We are part of a 501c3 nonprofit organization.

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13 Ryan November 19, 2008 at 11:48 pm

Mark: Thank you for contacting me. I know you can have these plans at the same time (for example if you have an account from a previous employer). However, I do not know whether or not you can contribute to both of these from the same employer in the same year, or what your contribution limits would be. I recommend contacting your plan administrator. I’m sorry I couldn’t be of more assistance.

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14 Philip O February 9, 2009 at 12:29 am

I am age 56. I have 2 different full-time employers. One has a simple IRA with match, and the other has a 401k offered with a match. My income, married, for the jobs combined is 250,000. How much will I be allowed to put in these accounts?

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15 Ryan February 12, 2009 at 1:11 pm

Philip: I am fairly sure you can contribute to both accounts, but I am not certain how much you can contribute to them. I recommend contacting a CPA or speaking with your HR rep for more information.

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16 Jason March 24, 2009 at 8:54 am

After reading the article; I can have multiple IRA accounts, but if I 2 Trad IRA accounts can I contribute 5K in each or just 2,500 each for the max of 5K. I understand why the gov’t wouldnt want me to do this with a Roth but their going to get their tax’s in the end no matter what.

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17 Kellie March 27, 2009 at 11:21 pm

What do you think about a gold backed IRA?

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18 Ryan March 27, 2009 at 11:43 pm

Kellie: I can’t recommend any specific investments. I only recommend that people research which asset allocation they feel is the best for their needs and their risk tolerance. Best of luck.

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19 Sandy August 27, 2009 at 8:47 pm

Can i deduct my contribution to an ira account in ny tax return if i have a 401k plan at work?

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20 Ryan August 27, 2009 at 9:16 pm

You can deduct contributions to a Traditional IRA in addition to contributions to a 401k so long as you meet income requirements and don’t exceed contribution limits.

Source: http://www.irs.gov/publications/p590/ch01.html

Modified AGI limit for traditional IRA contributions increased. For 2008, if you were covered by a retirement plan at work, your deduction for contributions to a traditional IRA is reduced (phased out) if your modified AGI is:

  • More than $85,000 but less than $105,000 for a married couple filing a joint return or a qualifying widow(er),
  • More than $53,000 but less than $63,000 for a single individual or head of household, or
  • Less than $10,000 for a married individual filing a separate return.

For 2008, if you either lived with your spouse or file a joint return, and your spouse was covered by a retirement plan at work, but you were not, your deduction is phased out if your modified AGI is more than $159,000 but less than $169,000. If your modified AGI is $169,000 or more, you cannot take a deduction for contributions to a traditional IRA. See How Much Can You Deduct? in this chapter.

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21 Luke September 20, 2009 at 11:13 pm

Concerning IRA accounts, am I correct in that I cannot contribute more than $5000 total per taxation year, spread across all of my IRA accounts?(I am less than 50 years of age) So to clarify, I cannot open two accounts and contribute $5000 to each of them in the same year, correct?

Thanks,
Luke

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22 Ryan September 20, 2009 at 11:19 pm

That is correct, Luke. Also, Traditional and Roth IRAs have the same contribution limits and you can only contribute $5,000 to these accounts. So if you wanted you could contribute $2,500 to a Traditional IRA and $2,500 to a Roth IRA. Most people prefer to stick with one type of IRA though.

Here is more information to get you started:

Best of luck!

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23 Sandi January 11, 2010 at 10:42 am

I am 53 and retired from the Air Force a year ago. I make about $34,000 a year in retirement pay. May I contribute to an IRA using my retirement pay?

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24 Madmaxx January 25, 2010 at 11:39 pm

Hello, I have a 401K a 459 plan ,pension,Roth IRA and mixed stocks and bonds. Would it be a good idea to keep my current 401K as it is and open a roth 401K and start contributing to that to save on the tax hit later on?

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25 Ryan January 26, 2010 at 12:03 am

Madmaxx, Each person has a different financial situation, and I cannot comment on the best course of action for you. I recommend speaking with a professional financial planner, who can help you understand the variety of investing and tax issues that your situation warrants.

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